A common question amongst coin collectors, especially younger collectors is how to clean their coins. If you have been given, for example, an old Victorian penny you might be disappointed to see that it's a rather dull dark brown as opposed to a new looking bright shiny copper colour and you could be tempted to want to shine it up so it looks like new in your coin collection.

Well, the simple answer to how to clean your coins is that if the coin is remotely rare or remotely collectable then you shouldn't clean it at all. Coins develop a surface covering called patina which dulls the coin over time though it doesn't necessarily mean that the detail on the coin isn't still well defined or that the coin has become less desirable by collectors. It is caused by exposure to oxygen (or 'oxidation'). Coin collectors expect to see some patina on old coins  and it actually adds to the appeal of good quality rare coins. It's quite a subtle thing patination but to the untrained eye or the younger collector, patina is boring and hides the shininess.

If you have found a coin out in mud, or in a river (perhaps by using a metal detector) and it is encrusted with dirt then you may, of course, try cleaning it under a tap being careful not to rub it or scratch it. If it is really dirty then you might want to try using a very soft brush being careful not to scratch it.

Another method used to clean encrusted coins is electrolysis whereby a current is passed over the coin to loosen any debris (and also the patina). If you do a search around you should be able to find ideas about how to do this, or you might be able to find someone local to you who could treat your coin in this manner. The advantage of electrolysis is that it isn't abrasive and it's FAST! There is less likelihood of any accidental damage though damage can still occur because on very old coins, it might be the patina that is holding the coin together! If a collectable rare coin is cleaned using chemicals then it will almost always lose value because collectors won't want a coin that has been artificially brightened up. Therefore the first thing to do before cleaning anything is to check the value of the coin to make sure you're not effectively destroying something of worth. You can do this by looking at the books we mentioned previously or by searching through the for sale listings on the right of this page to see if you can locate your coin.

If you decide that you really do want to clean a coin and you don't care about the fact that it will lose value then there are various acidic chemicals that you can soak it in which should bring it up in a lovely shine. Common chemicals that are good for cleaning coins are:

  • Vinegar
  • Cola (any type)
  • Tomato ketchup
  • Olive Oil

All will effectively burn off the top layer of patination and leave you with a shiny coin. For younger coin collectors in particular, shiney coins can be a fun way to get them interested, just don't leave them in reach of both your prized collection and a bottle of tomato sauce or you could be in for a shock if they decode to "help" you out one day by carrying out a surprise coin clean!

You should never ever use the above chemicals on a remotely rare coin. If you have what you think might be a rare coin and you want to get find out if it can be cleaned always get advice from a coin dealer before you do anything and never ever be tempted to clean mint, uncirculated coins, and definitely never be tempted to clean proof coins which are struck with a mirror like finish.

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If you have some old British coins then you probably want to know what they are worth. How can you find out?

Well there are three factors involved in valuing rare British coins in our view and we are going to explain these so you can find your own preferred way. It's very true to say that an old coin, like any other object, is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.  However that old economics adage doesn't really help anyone in itself, but it does if you use a bit of brain power to apply it to the price information out there already. Best of all, you can get all this information for free.

So, you have some rare old coins for sale, how do you value them?

Well before you can find a value, you need to make sure you know exactly what you are selling. This means not only understanding what your coin is (i.e. is it a sixpence, a shilling, a groat etc.) but also understanding how to grade it because condition is everything with rare coins (as it is with all collectors items).  Once you are happy that you really do understand what you are selling, and you are aware of any possible rare aspects to your coin (for example, do you have a coin with a rare mint mark, or a rare error?)

So here is our advice on how to value your old British coins:

1. You need to check the type and condition of your coin. The best way to do this is to refer to a book on rare British coins. You don't necessarily have to buy the book because your local library should be able to find you a copy to look at (it will probably be a reference book that you can't take out, but I doubt if a library will mind you taking your coins IN so you can look them up). Here are some books that will help you to value your old UK coins. Click any of these for more information and note down the details if you don't want to buy them so you can check with your library. We have also added a great book for getting children interested in coin collecting which would make a great gift:

2. Check current and recent auction prices for the coin you are trying to value. You can do this by looking at the listings here at rare british coins and by searching through complated auctions on Ebay as well. Again, make sure you allow for valuation adjustments for condition and any special features of the coin. (See our page of rare coin price guides - link on the right of this page)

3. Finally, and this is where we go back a little towards pulling figures out of the air, you need to form an opinion of the value of your coin by looking at the price guide, and the actual previous selling prices of the coin you are trying to value, adjusting for condition. British coin auction prices can be knocked way off target if there are two bidders fighting for the same coin as this can drive the price up abnormally. Equally, an auction is never a perfect way to sell a rare coin because if someone doesn't find the auction in the first place then they will never get to bid! Therefore you need to allow for all of these factors when trying to sell. Another issue that will affect you if you are selling is how badly you need to sell quickly. In other words, coin auction prices do not necessarily become coin values, but they are a guide.

Let's give an example:

1. You have a coin which is in the price guide as being worth £25.
2. You check online and find that two have sold on ebay in similar condition for £17.
3. You would like to sell it quickly so you can spend the money on something else so you decide to offer it for sale on Ebay as a buy it now item for £15. If you were not in a rush to sell, then you might put it on ebay for £20 and drop the price if nobody has shown any interest in it after a few weeks. Alternatively again, you could auction the coin and start it at £15 because this then means that there is a chance that it will sell for more than £17 but at the very least, you will hope to get £15 for it. We hope that doesn't sound too overly complicated! If you have never sold anything on ebay, it's really easy to do so. Look at any of our rare coin listings pages and click the link at the bottom which invites you to register with ebay. It's completely free to register and there is no obligation to sell anything so if you decide to sell your coins to a coin dealer instead that's fine. There are fees for selling your coins online and these generally work out to be somewhere in the region of 10% of the sale price overall, give or take a little.

It's not an exact science and the best advice we can give you is to do your homework to check out exactly what you are selling, set a price you are comfortable with and if you sell it, forget it and don't have sleepless nights worrying about whether you underpriced it because if you follow our approach, overall you should work out getting just about the right price for your rare old coins.

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